John MacDonald Ogg, 18781935 (aged 57 years)

Name
John MacDonald /Ogg/
Given names
John MacDonald
Surname
Ogg
Birth
Type: Birth of Ogg, John MacDonald
8 June 1878 37 34
Plantersville, Grimes, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.332986 Longitude: -95.861896
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Death of a maternal grandfather
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
INDI:EVEN:ADDR:NOTE: @N2327@
Death of a maternal grandmother
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
INDI:EVEN:ADDR:NOTE: @N2327@
Birth of a sister
Birth of a brother
25 June 1884 (aged 6 years)
Plantersville, Grimes, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.332986 Longitude: -95.861896
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Death of a paternal grandmother
13 May 1888 (aged 9 years)
Magnolia, Montgomery, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.209379 Longitude: -95.750782
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Death of a mother
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Birth of a son
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Birth of a daughter
Death of a father
4 July 1912 (aged 34 years)
Silsbee, Hardin, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.349098 Longitude: -94.177962
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
INDI:EVEN:ADDR:NOTE: @N3042@
Birth of a daughter
16 September 1913 (aged 35 years)
Rockland, Tyler, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 31.015195 Longitude: -94.381588
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Birth of a daughter
3 June 1918 (aged 39 years)
Newton, Newton, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.848534 Longitude: -93.757401
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Birth of a son
8 March 1921 (aged 42 years)
Wiergate, Newton, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.999641 Longitude: -93.707677
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Death of a son
1 April 1921 (aged 42 years)
Wiergate, Newton, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.999641 Longitude: -93.707677
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Birth of a son
14 January 1922 (aged 43 years)
Marriage of a son
MARRIAGE OF OGG, JOHN MACDONALD AND DICKERSON, ESTELLE NORA
State: Louisiana
Country: United States of America
Birth of a daughter
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Burial of a brother
4 February 1934 (aged 55 years)
Sour Lake, Hardin, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.140212 Longitude: -94.411024
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Birth of a daughter
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Burial of a father
Plantersville, Grimes, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.332986 Longitude: -95.861896
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Burial of a mother
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Death
Type: Death of Ogg, John MacDonald
30 November 1935 (aged 57 years)
Newton, Newton, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.848534 Longitude: -93.757401
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Burial
Type: Burial of Ogg, John MacDonald
Newton, Newton, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.848534 Longitude: -93.757401
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Family with parents
father
18401912
Birth: 25 August 1840 36 28 Georgia, United States of America
Death: 4 July 1912Silsbee, Hardin, Texas, United States of America
mother
18441901
Birth: 9 February 1844 32 28 Huntsville, Madison, Alabama, United States of America
Death: 20 January 1901Grimes, Texas, United States of America
younger sister
18811976
Birth: 22 March 1881 40 37
Death: 13 September 1976
-15 years
elder brother
18661936
Birth: 3 October 1866 26 22 Texas, United States of America
Death: 3 February 1936Sour Lake, Hardin, Texas, United States of America
2 years
elder sister
18681940
Birth: 26 December 1868 28 24 Montgomery, Texas, United States of America
Death: 24 April 1940Houston, Harris, Texas, United States of America
3 years
elder sister
18711942
Birth: 31 July 1871 30 27 Minks Prairie, Montgomery, Texas, United States of America
Death: 12 June 1942San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, United States of America
4 years
elder sister
19 months
elder brother
18751966
Birth: 4 August 1875 34 31 Waller, Texas, United States of America
Death: 5 August 1966Houston, Harris, Texas, United States of America
3 years
himself
18781935
Birth: 8 June 1878 37 34 Plantersville, Grimes, Texas, United States of America
Death: 30 November 1935Newton, Newton, Texas, United States of America
6 years
younger brother
18841970
Birth: 25 June 1884 43 40 Plantersville, Grimes, Texas, United States of America
Death: 15 November 1970Georgetown, Williamson, Texas, United States of America
Family with Janie Pearl Penelope Graham
himself
18781935
Birth: 8 June 1878 37 34 Plantersville, Grimes, Texas, United States of America
Death: 30 November 1935Newton, Newton, Texas, United States of America
ex-wife
18801973
Birth: 9 December 1880 Nacogdoches, Nacogdoches, Texas, United States of America
Death: 30 October 1973Houston, Harris, Texas, United States of America
son
19071997
Birth: 6 February 1907 28 26 Texas, United States of America
Death: 26 January 1997Harris, Texas, United States of America
3 years
daughter
19091997
Birth: 9 August 1909 31 28
Death: 14 June 1997
4 years
daughter
19131997
Birth: 16 September 1913 35 32 Rockland, Tyler, Texas, United States of America
Death: 14 June 1997Wimberly, Hays, Texas, United States of America
5 years
daughter
19182002
Birth: 3 June 1918 39 37 Newton, Newton, Texas, United States of America
Death: 25 October 2002Beaumont, Jefferson, Texas, United States of America
son
Private
son
19211921
Birth: 8 March 1921 42 40 Wiergate, Newton, Texas, United States of America
Death: 1 April 1921Wiergate, Newton, Texas, United States of America
10 months
son
19221980
Birth: 14 January 1922 43 41
Death: January 1980Amarillo, Taylor, Texas, United States of America
Family with Estelle Nora Dickerson
himself
18781935
Birth: 8 June 1878 37 34 Plantersville, Grimes, Texas, United States of America
Death: 30 November 1935Newton, Newton, Texas, United States of America
wife
19081989
Birth: 9 June 1908 Bronson, Sabine, Texas, United States of America
Death: 23 September 1989Kirbyville, Jasper, Texas, United States of America
MARRIAGE OF OGG, JOHN MACDONALD AND DICKERSON, ESTELLE NORA MARRIAGE OF OGG, JOHN MACDONALD AND DICKERSON, ESTELLE NORA5 November 1932DeRidder, Beauregard, Louisiana, United States of America
14 months
daughter
19342000
Birth: 13 January 1934 55 25 Burkville, Newton, Texas, United States of America
Death: 14 January 2000Kirbyville, Jasper, Texas, United States of America
14 months
daughter
19352015
Birth: 22 March 1935 56 26 Burkville, Newton, Texas, United States of America
Death: 6 January 2015Jasper, Jasper, Texas, United States of America
Jesse Weaver + Estelle Nora Dickerson
wife’s husband
wife
19081989
Birth: 9 June 1908 Bronson, Sabine, Texas, United States of America
Death: 23 September 1989Kirbyville, Jasper, Texas, United States of America
stepdaughter
Private
stepson
19261969
Birth: 4 August 1926 18 18 Jasper, Texas, United States of America
Death: 30 November 1969Sabine, Texas, United States of America
2 years
stepdaughter
19282002
Birth: 11 August 1928 20 20 Texas, United States of America
Death: 1 November 2002
Sydney B. Griggs + Estelle Nora Dickerson
wife’s husband
wife
19081989
Birth: 9 June 1908 Bronson, Sabine, Texas, United States of America
Death: 23 September 1989Kirbyville, Jasper, Texas, United States of America
stepson
19472005
Birth: 27 August 1947 54 39 Newton, Newton, Texas, United States of America
Death: 17 February 2005Newton, Newton, Texas, United States of America
stepson
Private
stepson
Private
Shared note

Master of Newton Lodge #136, Burkeville, Texas, from 1923 -1924.

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He mustered into Company C of the 2nd Texas Volunteer Infrantry as a private on 3 May 1898 for an enlistment of two years. He is described by the Captain as being 21 years old, 5 ft 10 in, with dusky complexion, blue eyes, and dark brown hair. He lists his town of birth as Plantersville, Texas, his occupation as farmer, and his father as James. (from Texas State Archives Military Records)

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from Miscellaneous Newton County, Texas Deaths 1903-1972 From Newton County Clerk's Office Records: Death is recorded as 30 Nov 1935, vol 1A, page 294, certificate number 26.

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Special to the Enterprise (Obituary) - John M. Ogg, 57, Dies in Newton - Services for widely known railroad man to be held today.

Newton Texas - November - 30 - John M. Ogg, 57, died of pneumonia at 7:00 A.M. Saturday. He was widely known in railroad circles throughout East Texas, having worked at Mayo and Nacogdoches before coming to this section as engineer on the G. and N. railroad in 1917. Mr. Ogg was born in Hockley, Texas, June 8, 1878. He was member of the Baptist Church, the Masonic Lodge, and the Brotherhood of Railway Engineers and Firemen. Surviving relatives include his wife, five daughters, Mrs. Ruth Miller, Bryan, Mrs. Johnnie Mae Crow, Jasper, Mrs. Lena Leveret, Galveston, Misses Annie Lou and Mary Alice Ogg of Newton: two sons, Graham and George of Jasper; two brothers, T. A. of Houston and W. H. of Lufkin, and three sisters; Mrs. Annie Derrick, Mrs. Emma Vickers, and Mrs. Cassie Horne, all of Houston. Funeral services will be held at 10:00 A.M. in the E. E. Stringer funeral home with Reverend H. S. Dickerson, pastor of the Newton Church officiating.

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Taken from ancestry.com site of Gary Adams:

Transcript of April 1977 tape of Ruth Ogg Hall talking about her father, John M. Ogg. This transcript was in the possession of Mary Alyce Ogg Adams. She gave it to me in the fall of 1999. (Gary Adams)

I am the daughter of John MacDonald Ogg and Penelope Graham Ogg. My father was a motor man once. They had a motor that ran down to the bottoms. That was in Bryan, Texas. The bottoms was where they raised cotton and everything. He hauled people back and forth. It was not a train. It was a gasoline motor; one of the first ones that came out. At first it was the only one they were using like that; later on they used more of them. Oh, I thought it was so much fun to get a ride on it.

How did we get to Houston to visit Grandma Graham? Oh, we came by train, from Bryan, Texas. That was, oh, I am 67 years old and I was six years old then. (1916)

I was born in Rockland Texas. Pappa worked as a night watchman. That is the way that he got started with trains. And he had to fire them up and get them running for the engineers. He was working for the railroad. Later on, he began to take trains out.

And Papa also worked as an oil field worker. He was not a driller, but if he had stayed with it a little longer, they would have made a driller out of him. He was a driller's helper. It was hard work and awful long hours and he had to work at night. I can remember how grouchy he was. Lena was a baby at that time, and she had a real nice little buggy that Mama had managed to get someway; saved her money. And Papa came home early one morning and stumbled over that buggy! And boy, he just took it and stomped it. He was so angry. He had a terrible temper. I have seen Papa get mad and tell off on things.

One time he got mad at a cow cause she hooked at Lena. But there is a long story about that. We had Aunt Clara staying with us. She had teased the cow, that is why she was angry. And she had her first calf. She was protecting her young, you know. Lena was much smaller and she just went out into the cow lot and she just rolled up under the fence and got out of the way of being hooked just in time. But Papa saw the cow hook at Lena and he grabbed up a piece of stove wood, they called it pine knots in those days, and he just beat that cow's horns and one horn was split after that. And I really kind of felt sorry for the poor old cow. But he really had a terrible temper.

We went to the Baptist Church. This town we lived in at that time was called Wiergate. And it was a sawmill town. The church met in a house built for a family, but they did not have it partitioned so we held church in there. The mill allowed us to do that. Then they planned on building a church. Mama was a charter member and she was the church musician. At first she was the pianist, no, at first she played the organ; and then later insisted that I play it in church. I could not play very well, but the singing and all, kind of drowned it out. So it was not so bad. But she brought us up in the church and we did have good training.

Are any of our relatives buried in Wiergate? Well, George's twin brother is buried there. His name was Edgar Allen and Papa named him after Edgar Allen Poe. He was the largest and prettiest baby. Johnnie Mae was ill at the time of their birth, she had whooping cough. Mama had one baby on one side of her and one baby on the other side and Edgar was the prettiest and Papa wanted to show Johnnie Mae the baby. Of course, we did not know she had the whooping cough then at the time. So Papa brought her in and showed her the baby and held her up close. And it was so tiny. It was only about six weeks old when it died. Of course, it was sick about a week before it died.

Do I remember the doctor who tended the baby? It was Dr. McAlister, from Wiergate. Well, he did not know too much. There was no such thing as a funeral home at that time. We did not even have a church service. They just had a grave side funeral. They had to make his little coffin, but it was real pretty. The man who made it was really a craftsman. He lived in Newton. Papa had him make it and he brought it up on the engine.

During World War I, we moved to Newton and Papa built the railroad. He carried the ties and the rails so far on his train and then they unloaded them and then he backed the train back and they put the rails down. And that is the way he built the railroad all the way to Wiergate.

They were building this big sawmill there at Wiergate. Oh, it was a huge thing. And they had what they called niggers that were iron things. When the big old logs that would come up the ramp with chains you see, these niggers would clamp down on those logs and flip them over, and that is where they got their names; they were workers you know. It was machinery though. It was interesting. A lot of people would come to Wiergate just to look over that mill. They had a big planer too. They also made the lumber. That was during World War I and they shipped a lot of lumber out of there. Papa just worked day and night; made several trips hauling that lumber. They used it to build ships and things like that.

Papa was a great hunter. From the time he was little boy even. They used to go and hunt deer in the days when they had all kinds of wild animals. And Papa was a great story teller. You know today people watch television and listen to radio but then they had to depend on people to tell stories. And he could tell some horrifying stories abut narrow escapes, that he had and people that he knew. There was one woman... His uncle and he were out hunting and they heard a woman screaming. So they went to investigate and they saw a panther on top of a little old log cabin roof and this woman was burning up her feather beds and the pillows every time that panther would want to come down that chimney. Of course it was a great chimney where they would cook in big iron pots. So his uncle shot this panther and killed it. But she had just about burned everything and she had a little baby and she had the baby tied up in the cabin loft. That was one of the stories and he could tell it, not like I did, but in degrees. And he would get you so excited to the point where you were just holding your breath. And we lived out on a farm. We had bought a farm. Lena and I had to wash dishes at night. It would be cold weather, and Papa would start telling the kids about different things like that and Lena and I would get scared. We would look out the window and imagine we could see all kind of bears and wildcats out there. We would be creeping in there, and Papa would say, "get back in there and wash those dishes"!

Papa was very romantic and was a very handsome man. Dark brown hair looked almost black, with a wave in the front part and he had big old blue eyes. He had a good personality. When he smiled his eyes would squint up and he just smiled all over. When he was in a good humor he was in a good humor, and everybody liked him. But when he was mad, he was mad.

Mama was dating (I guess that was what they called it in those days) Will Powell. He and a friend were in business. They owned a livery stable. They rented carriages out. Carriages with beautiful horses. This was in Nacogdoches. I do not know how they met, but I think Mama worked in a store. They might have met there, I do not know. But any way, Will was going with Mama. Oh he would come to see her and he would bring the prettiest horses and the best carriage. Mama said she was so proud. She loved to ride in that carriage and watch those horses prance. They were so pretty.

But there was a dance or ball, I believe they called it in those days. Mama was invited and Will Powell took her. They were engaged. Mama said Will had asked her to marry. She had been going with him for five years. He was taking care of his mother. I think he was waiting to marry on account of taking care of his mother. During this dance, Papa was there too, and he spotted Mama. He happened to know Will Powell. So he went over to Will, and Will had to introduce him to Mama. He asked for a dance. So they began to dance. He made up his mind that very night that he was going take Mama away from Will Powell. He fell in love with her right off the reel. She liked him too. There was little bit - they all liked Will Powell. Her mother always felt like she was safe with Will Powell. She did not know about this John Ogg. He was a fast one.

The one that Mama loved, really loved deeply, died. His name was Lawrence. He was a beautiful man the way Mama talked about him. He was tall, nice, just handsome. Grandma told her never to let a man kiss her or he would not like her anymore. It was a disgrace to do things like that. He wanted to kiss her and she would not let him. He took pneumonia I believe and you know they did not have any cure for pneumonia in this time. If a person got well, it was just their own body resistance that pulled them through. He died and she grieved over that. She liked...she thought she would marry Will Powell. She figured she would not love anybody else. But then she met Papa and he was so persistent. He broke down all her defenses. They did not tarry long. They got married.

They had rough times together. The sickness, and children that they had. They lost their firstborn. He lived to be eleven years old and he died of blood poisoning in Sour Lake. He is buried in Sour Lake.

They were living in Sour Lake. Papa was doing oil field work. What I do remember about Uncle Jim Ogg was that he had a livery stable. He was pretty well off when we lived there. We were poor you know. We lived in a little old shack. Uncle Jim lived in a fine home. Uncle Lon did too. Uncle Lon was with Uncle Jim in the business.