Joseph Bell Holder, 1789–1850?> (aged 61 years)
- Name
- Joseph Bell /Holder/
- Given names
- Joseph Bell
- Surname
- Holder
- Name
- Joseph /Holder/
- Type of name
- also known as
- Given names
- Joseph
- Surname
- Holder
Birth
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State: Georgia Country: United States of America |
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Birth of a son
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State: Georgia Country: United States of America |
Birth of a daughter
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State: Georgia Country: United States of America |
Birth of a daughter
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Birth of a son
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State: Georgia Country: United States of America |
Birth of a daughter
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State: Florida Country: United States of America |
Birth of a daughter
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State: Florida Country: United States of America |
Death
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himself |
1789–1850
Birth: 1789
— Camden, Georgia, United States of America Death: after 1850 |
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partner |
1785–1860
Birth: 1785
— South Carolina, United States of America Death: after 1860 — Alachua, Florida, United States of America |
daughter | |
1 year
son |
1827–1880
Birth: 1827
38
42
— Georgia, United States of America Death: after 1880 |
8 years
daughter |
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1824–1880
Birth: 29 January 1824
35
39
— Colerain, Camden, Georgia, United States of America Death: 22 May 1880 — Texas, United States of America |
17 years
daughter |
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1826–1891
Birth: 1826
37
41
— Georgia, United States of America Death: 1891 — Texas, United States of America |
Shared note
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1820 Camden Co., GA census HEAD of HOUSEHOLD to to to to to to to to to Natur- to to to to to to 1860 Census of Alachua County, FL p.42 22 313 320 Wadkins Crawford 38 M Farmer N.C. X 1845 Alachua County, Florida Voters Registration FORT HARLEE PRECINCT House of Mrs. Ann Monroe The son, Joseph would have only been 16 years old at the time, which mean that this must be the father, listed on the 1840 census of Columbia County, Florida. This indicates that his Father's name was also Joseph Bell HOLDER. The 1845 voter's registration for Alachua County, Florida list a Joseph Holder jr. The two Joseph HOLDERs that this researcher (Jason Haydon) knows of in Alachua County, Florida around that time period are: The second piece of evidence is convoluted at best. Some researchers have previously stated that Joseph (b. 1780) was from Camden County Co., GA. No proof is ever given, except that the Joseph listed as head of household in the 1810 and1820 censuses for Camden County Co., GA are the only times a Joseph HOLDER is found as head of household in Georgia before 1860, where his and Hannah's children were born. What no one seems to have taken into consideration is the actual family data from the census records of 1830 Hamilton County, Florida and 1840 Columbia County Florida 1830 census, Hamilton County, Florida p173 list the following: males: 1-under 5; 1- 5 thru 10; 1-40 thru 50 females: 1-under 5; 2-5 thru 10; 1-40 thru 50 indetified as: One unidentified female age 5-10 (died or married before 1850) 1840 census Columbia County, Florida p152 Information on known children; from the 1850 census, helps us to identify most listed in 1840 ask: Now, taking into consideration that there are no known children born before 1823, we look at the 1820 census of Camden County Co., GA page 50 males: 1 under 10; 1 - 25 thru 45; 1 45 and over Now if this is Joseph from the 1830 and 1840 census, what happened to these three children, none of which appear on the 1830 census, or the 1840 census. However, if Joseph truly was a "junior" as the 1845 voter's registration of Alachua County says, The Joseph listed as head of household very well could be the male age 45 and above, and Joseph (b. 1780-1790) would not be the head of household listed, but would be the male age 25-45 (he would be between ages 30 and 40 in 1820). There is also a reonstructed 1810 census for Camden County Co., GA: taken from county records at the time. It does list a Joseph Holder. Nothing else is listed on this, but depending on when Joseph (jr\) was born, he may have been to young to be listed on this list, because it was comprised from tx list (age 21 and above, and if he was born in 1789/1790 depending on month of birth/date taxes were collected, he Joseph (jr\) could very well have only been age 19/20 in 1810.) Therefore it does appear to me that the Joseph age 45 and up on the 1820 census of Camden County Georgia, and the Joseph on the 1845 Alachua County Florida Voter's registration list are father and son.Name: Joseph Holder |
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Shared note
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Death was probably in Camden County, Georgia. |