Francis M. Holder, 1853–?>
- Name
- Francis M. /Holder/
- Given names
- Francis M.
- Surname
- Holder
- Nickname
- Fannie
Birth
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State: Florida Country: United States of America Shared note: Birth year estimated from marriage certificate - she was 26 in 1879 when she married Thomas Ginn Wal… Birth year estimated from marriage certificate - she was 26 in 1879 when she married Thomas Ginn Wallingford. |
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Birth of a sister
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State: Florida Country: United States of America |
Birth of a sister
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State: Florida Country: United States of America |
Death of a mother
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Birth of a half-brother
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State: Texas Country: United States of America |
Death of a paternal grandmother
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State: Florida Country: United States of America |
Birth of a half-brother
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State: Texas Country: United States of America |
MARRIAGE OF SUGGETT, WILLIAM AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M.
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State: Texas Country: United States of America FAM:MARR:ADDR:NOTE: @N2327@ |
MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, A. J. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M.
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State: Texas Country: United States of America |
Death of a husband
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MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, J. D. JR. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M.
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State: Texas Country: United States of America |
MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND SUGGITT, FANNIE M.
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State: Texas Country: United States of America |
Death of a father
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State: Texas Country: United States of America |
Divorce
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Type: Divorce of Wallingford, Thomas Ginn and Suggitt, Fannie M. State: Texas Country: United States of America FAM:DIV:ADDR:NOTE: @N1704@ |
Death of a husband
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State: Texas Country: United States of America
Cause: Dropsy and senility |
Death of a husband
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State: Texas Country: United States of America |
Death of a sister
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State: Florida Country: United States of America |
Death of a husband
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City: Abilene State: Texas Country: United States of America |
Death of a half-brother
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State: Texas Country: United States of America |
father |
1824–1880
Birth: 29 January 1824
35
39
— Colerain, Camden, Georgia, United States of America Death: 22 May 1880 — Texas, United States of America |
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mother | |
elder brother |
1839–
Birth: November 1839
15
15
— Campville, Alachua, Florida, United States of America |
23 months
elder brother |
1841–
Birth: September 1841
17
17
— Campville, Alachua, Florida, United States of America |
3 years
elder sister |
1844–
Birth: June 1844
20
20
— Campville, Alachua, Florida, United States of America |
23 months
elder sister |
1846–1920
Birth: 3 May 1846
22
22
— Campville, Alachua, Florida, United States of America Death: 5 September 1920 — Melrose, Alachua, Florida, United States of America |
4 years
elder brother |
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5 years
herself |
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4 years
younger sister |
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3 years
younger sister |
father |
1824–1880
Birth: 29 January 1824
35
39
— Colerain, Camden, Georgia, United States of America Death: 22 May 1880 — Texas, United States of America |
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father’s partner | |
half-brother | |
5 years
half-brother |
1864–1925
Birth: 20 September 1864
40
25
— Texas, United States of America Death: 7 July 1925 — Waller, Texas, United States of America |
husband |
1849–1916
Birth: 29 July 1849
43
30
— Texas, United States of America Death: 11 August 1916 — Harris, Texas, United States of America |
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herself | |
MARRIAGE OF SUGGETT, WILLIAM AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M. | MARRIAGE OF SUGGETT, WILLIAM AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M. — 1 December 1870 — Montgomery, Texas, United States of America |
husband |
1850–1874
Birth: 8 October 1850
23
19
— Louisiana, United States of America Death: 10 June 1874 |
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herself | |
MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, A. J. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M. | MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, A. J. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M. — 29 January 1874 — Grimes, Texas, United States of America |
husband |
1854–1922
Birth: 16 October 1854
27
23
— Louisiana, United States of America Death: 13 September 1922 — Abilene, Taylor, Texas, United States of America |
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herself | |
MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, J. D. JR. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M. | MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, J. D. JR. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M. — 16 November 1875 — Waller, Texas, United States of America |
ex-husband |
1828–1909
Birth: 27 March 1828
68
39
— Mason, Kentucky, United States of America Death: 6 May 1909 — Waller, Texas, United States of America |
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herself | |
MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND SUGGITT, FANNIE M. | MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND SUGGITT, FANNIE M. — 15 March 1879 — Waller, Texas, United States of America |
Divorce | Divorce — 14 June 1881 — Hempstead, Waller, Texas, United States of America |
husband |
1849–1916
Birth: 29 July 1849
43
30
— Texas, United States of America Death: 11 August 1916 — Harris, Texas, United States of America |
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husband’s wife | |
MARRIAGE OF SUGGITT, WILLIAM AND ?, M. U. | MARRIAGE OF SUGGITT, WILLIAM AND ?, M. U. — 1884 — |
husband |
1854–1922
Birth: 16 October 1854
27
23
— Louisiana, United States of America Death: 13 September 1922 — Abilene, Taylor, Texas, United States of America |
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husband’s partner |
1862–1949
Birth: 24 May 1862
— North Liberty, Knox, Ohio, United States of America Death: 7 September 1949 — Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States of America |
stepdaughter | |
2 years
stepdaughter |
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8 years
stepson |
1895–1951
Birth: 26 June 1895
40
33
— Texas, United States of America Death: 29 June 1951 — Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States of America |
3 years
stepdaughter |
ex-husband |
1828–1909
Birth: 27 March 1828
68
39
— Mason, Kentucky, United States of America Death: 6 May 1909 — Waller, Texas, United States of America |
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ex-husband’s wife | |
MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND DEBELL, EVELINE | MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND DEBELL, EVELINE — 18 October 1849 — Mason, Kentucky, United States of America |
1 year
ex-husband’s daughter |
1850–1851
Birth: 17 October 1850
22
21
— Kentucky, United States of America Death: 26 September 1851 — Mason, Kentucky, United States of America |
21 months
ex-husband’s son |
1852–1858
Birth: 14 July 1852
24
22
— Kentucky, United States of America Death: 1 August 1858 — Texas, United States of America |
20 months
ex-husband’s daughter |
1854–1861
Birth: 24 February 1854
25
24
— Kentucky, United States of America Death: 20 September 1861 — Texas, United States of America |
2 years
ex-husband’s daughter |
1856–1884
Birth: 13 April 1856
28
26
— Texas, United States of America Death: before August 1884 — Texas, United States of America |
2 years
ex-husband’s son |
1858–1867
Birth: 25 March 1858
29
28
— Texas, United States of America Death: 5 November 1867 — Texas, United States of America |
3 years
ex-husband’s daughter |
1860–1946
Birth: 30 September 1860
32
31
— Courtney, Martin, Texas, United States of America Death: 8 April 1946 — Waller, Texas, United States of America |
23 months
ex-husband’s son |
1862–1917
Birth: 2 September 1862
34
32
— Retreat, Grimes, Texas, United States of America Death: 27 November 1917 — Howth, Waller, Texas, United States of America |
5 years
ex-husband’s daughter |
1867–1912
Birth: 15 February 1867
38
37
— Waller, Texas, United States of America Death: 27 June 1912 |
3 years
ex-husband’s daughter |
1869–1873
Birth: 12 October 1869
41
40
Death: 9 September 1873 — Texas, United States of America |
ex-husband |
1828–1909
Birth: 27 March 1828
68
39
— Mason, Kentucky, United States of America Death: 6 May 1909 — Waller, Texas, United States of America |
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ex-husband’s wife |
1862–1940
Birth: 18 October 1862
23
27
— Mason, Kentucky, United States of America Death: 13 June 1940 — Waller, Texas, United States of America |
MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND TUCKER, ANNIE ELIZA | MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND TUCKER, ANNIE ELIZA — 1 September 1884 — Mason, Kentucky, United States of America |
14 months
ex-husband’s son |
1885–1960
Birth: 28 October 1885
57
23
Death: 12 April 1960 — Waller, Texas, United States of America |
2 years
ex-husband’s son |
1887–1922
Birth: 22 October 1887
59
25
Death: 18 January 1922 — Fields Store, Waller, Texas, United States of America |
3 years
ex-husband’s daughter |
1890–1974
Birth: 4 June 1890
62
27
— Fields Store, Waller, Texas, United States of America Death: 2 September 1974 — Harris, Texas, United States of America |
Birth |
Shared note
Birth year estimated from marriage certificate - she was 26 in 1879 when she married Thomas Ginn Wallingford. |
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MARRIAGE OF SUGGETT, WILLIAM AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M. |
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Divorce |
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Shared note
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Family story is that she ran off with a sewing machine salesman! Marriage certificate refers to her as living in Harris County. |
Shared note
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Fannie Suggitt Written by Nick Wallingford<br> 30 October 2008 "Fannie Suggitt" is one of our relations about whom we have known very little... One of the standard Wallingford stories is that "After T.G. Wallingford's first wife died, he married Fannie Suggitt, who ran away with a sewing machine salesman". According to Annie Tucker Wallingford, T.G.'s third wife, the family "never talked about her..." THE HOLDERS COME TO TEXAS FROM FLORIDA Part of the trouble in tracing her was that she was not born Fannie Suggitt. She was born Francis M. Holder, in Alachula County, Florida, sometime in 1853, to Thomas Bell and Elizabeth Holder. http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1850AlashuaCoFLThomasHolder.jpg - 1850 Alashua County Florida census: T.B. Holder family Sometime just before 1860, the family moved to Texas, settling first into the Bellville Precinct of Austin County. Though it is not confirmed, it seems very likely that Elizabeth died before that move to Texas, as by July 1860 Thomas has remarried to Mary - 15 years his junior, so not much older than his children that came with them. Thomas and Mary had several more children after settling in Texas. By 1870, the family had moved to northwest Harris County. http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1860AustinCoHolder.jpg - 1860 Austin County census: T.B. Holder family At that time (July 1870) the family consisted of Francis (18) with her father and step-mother, her brother Richard (18), sister Nancy (14) and two younger step-brothers Lewis (10) and William (5). That youngest boy, William Bell Holder, will be significant later in this story. Living only a couple of houses away were her Aunt Mary (her father's sister) and various of her family - the Swifts and the Wadkins. These relations had followed the family to Texas from Alachula County, Florida, arriving several years later. <a href=http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1870HarrisCoFannieWallingford.jpg - 1870 Harris County census: T.B. Holder family (also showing the Swift/Wadkins family) FANNIE'S FIRST MARRIAGE Five months later, on 1 December 1870, Francis married William Suggitt in nearby Montgomery County. This was all before the creation of Waller County - and the boundaries of Grimes County (where William was likely living at the time), Harris County (where Francis lived) and Montgomery County (where they married were all very close together. Nothing is known about how they met. William would have been a young farmer, 21 years old, and Francis would have been about 17. <pre>SUGGETT, William Marriage Wife: Francis HOLDEN Marriage Date: 1 Dec 1870 Recorded in: Montgomery, TexasSource: FHL Number 1006044 Dates: 1838-1879</pre>Notice the typos - William's last name is spelled 'Suggitt' (most often) or 'Suggett' throughout the documents throughout the years. In this case, the spelling of 'Holden' made it initially pretty hard for me to find this record! The Suggitts had been around Texas for some years before. William's parents, though born in England and Germany, had been married in Grimes County back in 1848. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txgrimes/GrimesMarriages.html - Marriage: William Suggitt and Catherine Elizabeth King (Search for Suggett) They were in Grimes County in 1850, but I can't locate them in the census for 1860 or 1870. It seems likely they remained in the Grimes County area, so they would have been pretty well established when their oldest son William married Francis. http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1850GrimesCoSuggitt.jpg - 1850 Grimes County census: Suggitt family There is no indication of what went wrong with the marriage, but it would appear that they were divorced within just a few years after marriage, with no evidence of children. FANNIE'S SECOND MARRIAGE At any rate, just over three years later on 29 January 1874 she remarried - to Albert J. Stinchcomb, this time in Grimes County. Fannie married under the name "Fannie Holder" - it would appear she may have been properly divorced from William Suggitt, but that is not certain. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txgrimes/GrimesMarriages1871_79.html - Marriage: A.J. Stinchcomb and Fannie Holder (Search for Stinchcomb) <pre>STINCHCOMB, A. J. Marriage Wife: Fannie HOLDER Marriage Date: 29 Jan 1874 Recorded in: Grimes, TexasSource: FHL Number 1006281 Dates: 1871-1879</pre>Albert was the oldest of a very large family that had moved to Texas from Louisiana, sometime in the 1850s. The father was born in Washington, D.C., and the mother was Irish. The Stinchcombs had been in Dewitt County in 1860 but were in Colorado County by 1870. Albert's father was a carpenter, but Albert was, apparently, a stick dowser - he located water by walking around with a stick of some sort! It could be that his work took him around the country a bit, and that may well be how he first met Francis. She would not be in a "good position" for those days - divorce was not common. http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1860DewittCoStinchcomb.jpg - 1860 Dewitt County census: Stinchcomb family Again, we don't know the details, but Albert died in the middle of 1874 (according to an old Stinchcomb Bible) - less than six months after they married. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~stinchcomb/thomas.htm - Stinchcomb Bible reference: Death of Albert Stinchcomb (Look for person number 454) So at the age of 21, Fannie had been married twice - with one divorce and one dead husband. AND A THIRD HUSBAND It didn't take long to get to the next record I could find - she married Albert's younger brother John Decatur Stinchcomb, Jr. on 16 November 1875 - not much more than a year after Albert died. She married this time under the name Fannie Suggitt - perhaps because she didn't want to be a Stinchcomb marrying a Stinchcomb? This marriage was registered in Waller County - as it had only just become a county a few years earlier. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txwaller/marbk/marbs.htm">Marriage: John Stinchcomb and Fannie Suggitt (Search for Fannie - notice the range of typos, including John's initials and T.G.'s name...) And once again, we don't have any details, but it would seem that John and Fannie were divorced within a few years of their marriage. Sometime before 1880, John D. (along with a number of other Stinchcombs) had moved up to Abilene - John was living on his own, and working as a barber. AND FINALLY MARRYING THOMAS GINN WALLINGFORD One Wallingford story has it that Fannie first got involved with Thomas Ginn Wallingford as a housekeeper, taking care of the younger children. As T.G.'s first wife Evaline had died in 1870, he was still caring for several young children, including Robert Thomas (born in 1862) and Annie Debell (born 1867) in the middle 1870s. At any rate, Fannie Suggitt (26) and Thomas Ginn Wallingford (51) were married in Waller County on 15 March 1879. http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/media/Wallingford/WallingfordTGFannieWedding.jpg - Marriage: T.G. Wallingford and Fannie Suggitt The marriage could not have lasted very long - the divorce was finalised on 14 June 1881! We'll never know the details - the story about 'running off with the sewing machine salesman' may have simply been that was the means of transport she used to leave T.G. - there is no evidence she stayed with such a salesman... http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/media/Wallingford/WallingfordTGFannieDivorce.jpg - Divorce: T.G. Wallingford and Fannie Suggitt WHERE DID THEY ALL GO? We don't know much more about Fannie after she left T.G. One of the clues that brought all of this together was finding her in the 1880 Harris County census. Her father Thomas had just died a few months earlier, so she was living with her step-mother Mary and step-brother William. Twenty six years old and she had been married four times in the previous 10 years - three divorces and a death... http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1880HarrisCoFannyWallingford.jpg - 1880 Harris County Census: Fannie Wallingford Living with Holder Family And her first husband, William Suggitt now about a decade older? He was still in the Fields Store area in 1880. It appears his parents had died by then, but he was living with two of his brothers, a sister and her child - and were listed in the census by the census taker - T.G. Wallingford! One can only wonder whether the two ever had any conversations about their time with Fannie! William remarried several years later, about the same time that T.G. took the trip to Kentucky that resulted in his third marriage, to Annie Tucker. http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1880WallerCoSuggitt.jpg - 1880 Waller County Census: William Suggitt and Various Family Members Various of the Suggitts remained in the area for many years to come - though William and his second wife (known only as "M.U." for now) never had any children, other Suggitt children did, and the siblings and their children variously married into other Waller County familys - Danford, Clepper, Lowe and Thomas are all familys that were "locals". William himself died in 1916, seven years after T.G. died, having lived his entire life in close proximity to one of the other three who had married Fannie. http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1900HarrisCoWilliamSuggitt.jpg - 1900 Harris County Census: William Suggitt http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1910WallerCoWilliamSuggitt.jpg - 1910 Waller County Census: William Suggitt http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=suggitt&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=5351798& - Burial (Waller Cemetery): William Suggitt The surviving Stinchcomb husband, John Decateur, stayed in Abilene, remarried and raised a family of four up there - none of the Stinchcombs appeared to remain in the Waller County area after 1880. http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1900TaylorCoStinchcombJD.jpg - 1900 Taylor County Census: John Stinchcomb http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1910TaylorCoStinchcombJD.jpg - 1910 Taylor County Census: John Stinchcomb THE CONNECTION TO THE OGG FAMILY Now to that step-brother William. His full name was William Bell Holder (the "Bell" being a common family name with the Holders, apparently). William was 12 years younger than Fannie. Eventually, after a first marriage that resulted in two children, William Bell remarried in about 1894 to a girl who would have been one of his neighbours for all of his growing up - Minnie Irene Ogg! Minnie was the oldest surviving child of Henry Warren (Sr.) and Emmaline Ogg - she was my grandfather's sister. Minnie and William (sometimes known just as W.B.) stayed in the same area for all of their lives, having 11 children eventually. http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1900WallerCoWmHolder.jpg - 1900 Waller County Census: W.B. and Minnie Holder http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1910HarrisCoWilliamAndMinnieHolder.jpg - 1910 Harris County Census: W.B. and Minnie Holder http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1920WilliamAndMinnieHolder.jpg - 1920 Harris County Census: W.B. and Minnie Holder CONCLUSION So Fannie, of whom we knew very little, becomes a bit clearer - and provides another connection between the Wallingfords and the Oggs, though one probably never known or, at the very least, never spoken about... The last written record of Francis Holder was that 1880 Harris County census, fresh from her fourth marriage. We can only speculate what happened to her after that. A final happy marriage, maybe even with children? A move out of the area? A life on her own from then? No records have been found to support any of these - we'll just have to guess and keep looking. |
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