Francis M. Holder, 1853

Name
Francis M. /Holder/
Given names
Francis M.
Surname
Holder
Nickname
Fannie
Birth
Type: Birth of Suggitt, Fannie M.
1853 28 29
State: Florida
Country: United States of America

Birth year estimated from marriage certificate - she was 26 in 1879 when she married Thomas Ginn Wallingford.

Birth of a sister
State: Florida
Country: United States of America
Birth of a sister
State: Florida
Country: United States of America
Death of a mother
before 1860 (aged 7 years)
Birth of a half-brother
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Death of a paternal grandmother
State: Florida
Country: United States of America
Birth of a half-brother
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
MARRIAGE OF SUGGETT, WILLIAM AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M.
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
FAM:MARR:ADDR:NOTE: @N2327@
MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, A. J. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M.
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Death of a husband
MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, J. D. JR. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M.
16 November 1875 (aged 22 years)
Waller, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.056608 Longitude: -95.926899
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND SUGGITT, FANNIE M.
15 March 1879 (aged 26 years)
Waller, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.056608 Longitude: -95.926899
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Death of a father
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Divorce
Type: Divorce of Wallingford, Thomas Ginn and Suggitt, Fannie M.
14 June 1881 (aged 28 years)
Hempstead, Waller, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.097441 Longitude: -96.078292
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
FAM:DIV:ADDR:NOTE: @N1704@
Death of a husband
6 May 1909 (aged 56 years)
Waller, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.056608 Longitude: -95.926899
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Cause: Dropsy and senility
Death of a husband
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Death of a sister
State: Florida
Country: United States of America
Death of a husband
13 September 1922 (aged 69 years)
Abilene, Taylor, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 32.448736 Longitude: -99.733144
City: Abilene
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Death of a half-brother
7 July 1925 (aged 72 years)
Waller, Texas, United States of America
Latitude: 30.056608 Longitude: -95.926899
State: Texas
Country: United States of America
Family with parents
father
18241880
Birth: 29 January 1824 35 39 Colerain, Camden, Georgia, United States of America
Death: 22 May 1880Texas, United States of America
mother
elder brother
1839
Birth: November 1839 15 15 Campville, Alachua, Florida, United States of America
23 months
elder brother
1841
Birth: September 1841 17 17 Campville, Alachua, Florida, United States of America
3 years
elder sister
1844
Birth: June 1844 20 20 Campville, Alachua, Florida, United States of America
23 months
elder sister
18461920
Birth: 3 May 1846 22 22 Campville, Alachua, Florida, United States of America
Death: 5 September 1920Melrose, Alachua, Florida, United States of America
4 years
elder brother
1849
Birth: 1849 24 25 Florida, United States of America
5 years
herself
1853
Birth: 1853 28 29 Alachua, Florida, United States of America
4 years
younger sister
3 years
younger sister
1858
Birth: 1858 33 34 Alachua, Florida, United States of America
Father’s family with Mary A.
father
18241880
Birth: 29 January 1824 35 39 Colerain, Camden, Georgia, United States of America
Death: 22 May 1880Texas, United States of America
father’s partner
half-brother
5 years
half-brother
Family with William Suggitt
husband
18491916
Birth: 29 July 1849 43 30 Texas, United States of America
Death: 11 August 1916Harris, Texas, United States of America
herself
1853
Birth: 1853 28 29 Alachua, Florida, United States of America
MARRIAGE OF SUGGETT, WILLIAM AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M. MARRIAGE OF SUGGETT, WILLIAM AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M.1 December 1870Montgomery, Texas, United States of America
Family with Albert Jackson Stinchcomb
husband
18501874
Birth: 8 October 1850 23 19 Louisiana, United States of America
Death: 10 June 1874
herself
1853
Birth: 1853 28 29 Alachua, Florida, United States of America
MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, A. J. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M. MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, A. J. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M.29 January 1874Grimes, Texas, United States of America
Family with John D. Stinchcomb Jr.
husband
18541922
Birth: 16 October 1854 27 23 Louisiana, United States of America
Death: 13 September 1922Abilene, Taylor, Texas, United States of America
herself
1853
Birth: 1853 28 29 Alachua, Florida, United States of America
MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, J. D. JR. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M. MARRIAGE OF STINCHCOMB, J. D. JR. AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M.16 November 1875Waller, Texas, United States of America
Family with Thomas Ginn Wallingford
ex-husband
18281909
Birth: 27 March 1828 68 39 Mason, Kentucky, United States of America
Death: 6 May 1909Waller, Texas, United States of America
herself
1853
Birth: 1853 28 29 Alachua, Florida, United States of America
MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND SUGGITT, FANNIE M. MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND SUGGITT, FANNIE M.15 March 1879Waller, Texas, United States of America
Divorce Divorce14 June 1881Hempstead, Waller, Texas, United States of America
William Suggitt + M. U.
husband
18491916
Birth: 29 July 1849 43 30 Texas, United States of America
Death: 11 August 1916Harris, Texas, United States of America
husband’s wife
18481910
Birth: January 1848Georgia, United States of America
Death: before 1910
MARRIAGE OF SUGGITT, WILLIAM AND ?, M. U. MARRIAGE OF SUGGITT, WILLIAM AND ?, M. U.1884
John D. Stinchcomb Jr. + Alice Sarah Kidd
husband
18541922
Birth: 16 October 1854 27 23 Louisiana, United States of America
Death: 13 September 1922Abilene, Taylor, Texas, United States of America
husband’s partner
18621949
Birth: 24 May 1862 North Liberty, Knox, Ohio, United States of America
Death: 7 September 1949Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States of America
stepdaughter
1885
Birth: November 1885 31 23 Texas, United States of America
2 years
stepdaughter
1887
Birth: November 1887 33 25 Texas, United States of America
8 years
stepson
18951951
Birth: 26 June 1895 40 33 Texas, United States of America
Death: 29 June 1951Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States of America
3 years
stepdaughter
1898
Birth: September 1898 43 36 Texas, United States of America
Thomas Ginn Wallingford + Eveline Debell
ex-husband
18281909
Birth: 27 March 1828 68 39 Mason, Kentucky, United States of America
Death: 6 May 1909Waller, Texas, United States of America
ex-husband’s wife
MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND DEBELL, EVELINE MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND DEBELL, EVELINE18 October 1849Mason, Kentucky, United States of America
1 year
ex-husband’s daughter
18501851
Birth: 17 October 1850 22 21 Kentucky, United States of America
Death: 26 September 1851Mason, Kentucky, United States of America
21 months
ex-husband’s son
18521858
Birth: 14 July 1852 24 22 Kentucky, United States of America
Death: 1 August 1858Texas, United States of America
20 months
ex-husband’s daughter
18541861
Birth: 24 February 1854 25 24 Kentucky, United States of America
Death: 20 September 1861Texas, United States of America
2 years
ex-husband’s daughter
18561884
Birth: 13 April 1856 28 26 Texas, United States of America
Death: before August 1884Texas, United States of America
2 years
ex-husband’s son
18581867
Birth: 25 March 1858 29 28 Texas, United States of America
Death: 5 November 1867Texas, United States of America
3 years
ex-husband’s daughter
18601946
Birth: 30 September 1860 32 31 Courtney, Martin, Texas, United States of America
Death: 8 April 1946Waller, Texas, United States of America
23 months
ex-husband’s son
18621917
Birth: 2 September 1862 34 32 Retreat, Grimes, Texas, United States of America
Death: 27 November 1917Howth, Waller, Texas, United States of America
5 years
ex-husband’s daughter
18671912
Birth: 15 February 1867 38 37 Waller, Texas, United States of America
Death: 27 June 1912
3 years
ex-husband’s daughter
18691873
Birth: 12 October 1869 41 40
Death: 9 September 1873Texas, United States of America
Thomas Ginn Wallingford + Annie Eliza Tucker
ex-husband
18281909
Birth: 27 March 1828 68 39 Mason, Kentucky, United States of America
Death: 6 May 1909Waller, Texas, United States of America
ex-husband’s wife
18621940
Birth: 18 October 1862 23 27 Mason, Kentucky, United States of America
Death: 13 June 1940Waller, Texas, United States of America
MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND TUCKER, ANNIE ELIZA MARRIAGE OF WALLINGFORD, THOMAS GINN AND TUCKER, ANNIE ELIZA1 September 1884Mason, Kentucky, United States of America
14 months
ex-husband’s son
18851960
Birth: 28 October 1885 57 23
Death: 12 April 1960Waller, Texas, United States of America
2 years
ex-husband’s son
18871922
Birth: 22 October 1887 59 25
Death: 18 January 1922Fields Store, Waller, Texas, United States of America
3 years
ex-husband’s daughter
18901974
Birth: 4 June 1890 62 27 Fields Store, Waller, Texas, United States of America
Death: 2 September 1974Harris, Texas, United States of America
Birth
Shared note

Birth year estimated from marriage certificate - she was 26 in 1879 when she married Thomas Ginn Wallingford.

MARRIAGE OF SUGGETT, WILLIAM AND HOLDER, FRANCIS M.
Divorce
Shared note

Family story is that she ran off with a sewing machine salesman!

Marriage certificate refers to her as living in Harris County.

Shared note

Fannie Suggitt

Written by Nick Wallingford<br>

30 October 2008

"Fannie Suggitt" is one of our relations about whom we have known very little...

One of the standard Wallingford stories is that "After T.G. Wallingford's first wife died, he married Fannie Suggitt, who ran away with a sewing machine salesman". According to Annie Tucker Wallingford, T.G.'s third wife, the family "never talked about her..."

THE HOLDERS COME TO TEXAS FROM FLORIDA

Part of the trouble in tracing her was that she was not born Fannie Suggitt. She was born Francis M. Holder, in Alachula County, Florida, sometime in 1853, to Thomas Bell and Elizabeth Holder.

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1850AlashuaCoFLThomasHolder.jpg - 1850 Alashua County Florida census: T.B. Holder family

Sometime just before 1860, the family moved to Texas, settling first into the Bellville Precinct of Austin County. Though it is not confirmed, it seems very likely that Elizabeth died before that move to Texas, as by July 1860 Thomas has remarried to Mary - 15 years his junior, so not much older than his children that came with them. Thomas and Mary had several more children after settling in Texas. By 1870, the family had moved to northwest Harris County.

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1860AustinCoHolder.jpg - 1860 Austin County census: T.B. Holder family

At that time (July 1870) the family consisted of Francis (18) with her father and step-mother, her brother Richard (18), sister Nancy (14) and two younger step-brothers Lewis (10) and William (5). That youngest boy, William Bell Holder, will be significant later in this story. Living only a couple of houses away were her Aunt Mary (her father's sister) and various of her family - the Swifts and the Wadkins. These relations had followed the family to Texas from Alachula County, Florida, arriving several years later.

<a href=http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1870HarrisCoFannieWallingford.jpg - 1870 Harris County census: T.B. Holder family (also showing the Swift/Wadkins family)

FANNIE'S FIRST MARRIAGE

Five months later, on 1 December 1870, Francis married William Suggitt in nearby Montgomery County. This was all before the creation of Waller County - and the boundaries of Grimes County (where William was likely living at the time), Harris County (where Francis lived) and Montgomery County (where they married were all very close together. Nothing is known about how they met. William would have been a young farmer, 21 years old, and Francis would have been about 17.

<pre>SUGGETT, William Marriage Wife: Francis HOLDEN Marriage Date: 1 Dec 1870 Recorded in: Montgomery, TexasSource: FHL Number 1006044 Dates: 1838-1879</pre>

Notice the typos - William's last name is spelled 'Suggitt' (most often) or 'Suggett' throughout the documents throughout the years. In this case, the spelling of 'Holden' made it initially pretty hard for me to find this record!

The Suggitts had been around Texas for some years before. William's parents, though born in England and Germany, had been married in Grimes County back in 1848.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txgrimes/GrimesMarriages.html - Marriage: William Suggitt and Catherine Elizabeth King (Search for Suggett)

They were in Grimes County in 1850, but I can't locate them in the census for 1860 or 1870. It seems likely they remained in the Grimes County area, so they would have been pretty well established when their oldest son William married Francis.

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1850GrimesCoSuggitt.jpg - 1850 Grimes County census: Suggitt family

There is no indication of what went wrong with the marriage, but it would appear that they were divorced within just a few years after marriage, with no evidence of children.

FANNIE'S SECOND MARRIAGE

At any rate, just over three years later on 29 January 1874 she remarried - to Albert J. Stinchcomb, this time in Grimes County. Fannie married under the name "Fannie Holder" - it would appear she may have been properly divorced from William Suggitt, but that is not certain.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txgrimes/GrimesMarriages1871_79.html - Marriage: A.J. Stinchcomb and Fannie Holder (Search for Stinchcomb)

<pre>STINCHCOMB, A. J. Marriage Wife: Fannie HOLDER Marriage Date: 29 Jan 1874 Recorded in: Grimes, TexasSource: FHL Number 1006281 Dates: 1871-1879</pre>

Albert was the oldest of a very large family that had moved to Texas from Louisiana, sometime in the 1850s. The father was born in Washington, D.C., and the mother was Irish. The Stinchcombs had been in Dewitt County in 1860 but were in Colorado County by 1870. Albert's father was a carpenter, but Albert was, apparently, a stick dowser - he located water by walking around with a stick of some sort! It could be that his work took him around the country a bit, and that may well be how he first met Francis. She would not be in a "good position" for those days - divorce was not common.

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1860DewittCoStinchcomb.jpg - 1860 Dewitt County census: Stinchcomb family
http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1870ColoradoCoStinchcomb1.jpg - 1870 Colorado County census: Stinchcomb family (page 1)
http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1870ColoradoCoStinchcomb2.jpg - 1870 Colorado County census: Stinchcomb family (page 2)

Again, we don't know the details, but Albert died in the middle of 1874 (according to an old Stinchcomb Bible) - less than six months after they married.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~stinchcomb/thomas.htm - Stinchcomb Bible reference: Death of Albert Stinchcomb (Look for person number 454)

So at the age of 21, Fannie had been married twice - with one divorce and one dead husband.

AND A THIRD HUSBAND

It didn't take long to get to the next record I could find - she married Albert's younger brother John Decatur Stinchcomb, Jr. on 16 November 1875 - not much more than a year after Albert died. She married this time under the name Fannie Suggitt - perhaps because she didn't want to be a Stinchcomb marrying a Stinchcomb? This marriage was registered in Waller County - as it had only just become a county a few years earlier.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txwaller/marbk/marbs.htm">Marriage: John Stinchcomb and Fannie Suggitt (Search for Fannie - notice the range of typos, including John's initials and T.G.'s name...)

And once again, we don't have any details, but it would seem that John and Fannie were divorced within a few years of their marriage. Sometime before 1880, John D. (along with a number of other Stinchcombs) had moved up to Abilene - John was living on his own, and working as a barber.

AND FINALLY MARRYING THOMAS GINN WALLINGFORD

One Wallingford story has it that Fannie first got involved with Thomas Ginn Wallingford as a housekeeper, taking care of the younger children. As T.G.'s first wife Evaline had died in 1870, he was still caring for several young children, including Robert Thomas (born in 1862) and Annie Debell (born 1867) in the middle 1870s.

At any rate, Fannie Suggitt (26) and Thomas Ginn Wallingford (51) were married in Waller County on 15 March 1879.

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/media/Wallingford/WallingfordTGFannieWedding.jpg - Marriage: T.G. Wallingford and Fannie Suggitt

The marriage could not have lasted very long - the divorce was finalised on 14 June 1881! We'll never know the details - the story about 'running off with the sewing machine salesman' may have simply been that was the means of transport she used to leave T.G. - there is no evidence she stayed with such a salesman...

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/media/Wallingford/WallingfordTGFannieDivorce.jpg - Divorce: T.G. Wallingford and Fannie Suggitt

WHERE DID THEY ALL GO?

We don't know much more about Fannie after she left T.G. One of the clues that brought all of this together was finding her in the 1880 Harris County census. Her father Thomas had just died a few months earlier, so she was living with her step-mother Mary and step-brother William. Twenty six years old and she had been married four times in the previous 10 years - three divorces and a death...

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1880HarrisCoFannyWallingford.jpg - 1880 Harris County Census: Fannie Wallingford Living with Holder Family

And her first husband, William Suggitt now about a decade older? He was still in the Fields Store area in 1880. It appears his parents had died by then, but he was living with two of his brothers, a sister and her child - and were listed in the census by the census taker - T.G. Wallingford! One can only wonder whether the two ever had any conversations about their time with Fannie! William remarried several years later, about the same time that T.G. took the trip to Kentucky that resulted in his third marriage, to Annie Tucker.

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1880WallerCoSuggitt.jpg - 1880 Waller County Census: William Suggitt and Various Family Members

Various of the Suggitts remained in the area for many years to come - though William and his second wife (known only as "M.U." for now) never had any children, other Suggitt children did, and the siblings and their children variously married into other Waller County familys - Danford, Clepper, Lowe and Thomas are all familys that were "locals". William himself died in 1916, seven years after T.G. died, having lived his entire life in close proximity to one of the other three who had married Fannie.

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1900HarrisCoWilliamSuggitt.jpg - 1900 Harris County Census: William Suggitt

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1910WallerCoWilliamSuggitt.jpg - 1910 Waller County Census: William Suggitt

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=suggitt&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=5351798& - Burial (Waller Cemetery): William Suggitt

The surviving Stinchcomb husband, John Decateur, stayed in Abilene, remarried and raised a family of four up there - none of the Stinchcombs appeared to remain in the Waller County area after 1880.

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1900TaylorCoStinchcombJD.jpg - 1900 Taylor County Census: John Stinchcomb

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1910TaylorCoStinchcombJD.jpg - 1910 Taylor County Census: John Stinchcomb

THE CONNECTION TO THE OGG FAMILY

Now to that step-brother William. His full name was William Bell Holder (the "Bell" being a common family name with the Holders, apparently). William was 12 years younger than Fannie. Eventually, after a first marriage that resulted in two children, William Bell remarried in about 1894 to a girl who would have been one of his neighbours for all of his growing up - Minnie Irene Ogg!

Minnie was the oldest surviving child of Henry Warren (Sr.) and Emmaline Ogg - she was my grandfather's sister. Minnie and William (sometimes known just as W.B.) stayed in the same area for all of their lives, having 11 children eventually.

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1900WallerCoWmHolder.jpg - 1900 Waller County Census: W.B. and Minnie Holder

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1910HarrisCoWilliamAndMinnieHolder.jpg - 1910 Harris County Census: W.B. and Minnie Holder

http://www.qwerty.geek.nz/reference/Census/1920WilliamAndMinnieHolder.jpg - 1920 Harris County Census: W.B. and Minnie Holder

CONCLUSION

So Fannie, of whom we knew very little, becomes a bit clearer - and provides another connection between the Wallingfords and the Oggs, though one probably never known or, at the very least, never spoken about...

The last written record of Francis Holder was that 1880 Harris County census, fresh from her fourth marriage. We can only speculate what happened to her after that. A final happy marriage, maybe even with children? A move out of the area? A life on her own from then? No records have been found to support any of these - we'll just have to guess and keep looking.

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