Peter John McIlvride, 18331906 (aged 72 years)

Name
Peter John /McIlvride/
Given names
Peter John
Surname
McIlvride
Nickname
John
Birth
Type: Birth of McIlvride, John
18 April 1833 40 37
Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Latitude: 56.330304 Longitude: -3.832545
Country: Scotland
Christening
Type: Christening of McIlvride, Peter John
2 May 1833 40 37 (aged 14 days)
Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Latitude: 56.330304 Longitude: -3.832545
Country: Scotland
Birth of a brother
16 October 1838 (aged 5 years)
Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Latitude: 56.330304 Longitude: -3.832545
Country: Scotland
MARRIAGE OF MCILVRIDE, JOHN AND MACGREGOR, ISABELLA
Country: Scotland

Bethell, New Zealand recorded in handwritten notes made by Phyllis Prouse Taylor on letters from her cousin (?) May and the date as 19 January 1855. Other information seems more reliable than this, however.

Death of a father
3 July 1855 (aged 22 years)
Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Latitude: 56.330304 Longitude: -3.832545
Country: Scotland
Birth of a daughter
Country: New Zealand
Birth of a daughter
Country: New Zealand
Death of a sister
21 October 1866 (aged 33 years)
Auckland, New Zealand
Latitude: -36.845972 Longitude: 174.765615
City: Auckland
Country: New Zealand
Birth of a daughter
Country: New Zealand
Birth of a daughter
Country: New Zealand
Death of a daughter
Country: New Zealand
Birth of a daughter
Country: New Zealand
Death of a mother
Country: New Zealand
Birth of a son
Country: New Zealand
Marriage of a daughter
Country: New Zealand
Marriage of a daughter
Marriage of a daughter
Country: New Zealand
Death of a wife
22 December 1899 (aged 66 years)
Wellington, New Zealand
Latitude: -41.28664 Longitude: 174.77557
City: Wellington
Country: New Zealand

from http://nzpictures.co.nz/gendex.htm

She died at Russell Terrace, Wellington, New Zealand

Burial of a wife
23 December 1899 (aged 66 years)
Wellington, New Zealand
Latitude: -41.28664 Longitude: 174.77557
City: Wellington
Country: New Zealand
MARRIAGE OF MCILVRIDE, PETER JOHN AND MANN, SELENA
3 January 1901 (aged 67 years)
Wellington, New Zealand
Latitude: -41.28664 Longitude: 174.77557
City: Wellington
Country: New Zealand

Date and location (Registrar's Office) from Jan Drummond.

Marriage of a son

New Zealand Mail 25 Nov 1903 p25a

Wedding. McIlvride - Maplesden. Mr John McIlvride, of the electrical brand of the Govt Railway Dept, to Miss Florence Ellen Maplesden, eldest daughter of Mr C. Maplesden, of Wellington. Description of wedding given.

Death
Type: Death of McIlvride, John
10 February 1906 (aged 72 years)
Country: New Zealand
Burial
Type: Burial of McIlvride, John
13 February 1906 (3 days after death)
Wellington, New Zealand
Latitude: -41.28664 Longitude: 174.77557
City: Wellington
Country: New Zealand
Family with parents
father
17921855
Birth: 20 July 1792Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Death: 3 July 1855Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
mother
17961872
Birth: 15 February 1796Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Death: 12 June 1872Lower Hutt, New Zealand
MARRIAGE OF MCILVRIDE, PETER JOHN AND MILLAR, GRACE MARRIAGE OF MCILVRIDE, PETER JOHN AND MILLAR, GRACE1817Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
brother
sister
brother
brother
brother
elder sister
18291866
Birth: 2 December 1829 37 33 Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Death: 21 October 1866Auckland, New Zealand
3 years
himself
18331906
Birth: 18 April 1833 40 37 Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Death: 10 February 1906Wainuiomata, New Zealand
6 years
younger brother
18381910
Birth: 16 October 1838 46 42 Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Death: 24 December 1910Lower Hutt, New Zealand
Family with Margaret Isabella McGregor
himself
18331906
Birth: 18 April 1833 40 37 Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Death: 10 February 1906Wainuiomata, New Zealand
wife
18331899
Birth: 1 February 1833 33 36 Monzie, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Death: 22 December 1899Wellington, New Zealand
MARRIAGE OF MCILVRIDE, JOHN AND MACGREGOR, ISABELLA MARRIAGE OF MCILVRIDE, JOHN AND MACGREGOR, ISABELLA7 January 1855Blackford, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
5 years
daughter
18601951
Birth: 3 February 1860 26 27 Wainuiomata, New Zealand
Death: 17 March 1951Levin, New Zealand
4 years
daughter
18631938
Birth: 3 November 1863 30 30 Wainuiomata, New Zealand
Death: 7 May 1938India
3 years
daughter
18661947
Birth: 29 December 1866 33 33 Wainuiomata, New Zealand
Death: 23 November 1947
3 years
daughter
18691869
Birth: 8 September 1869 36 36 Wainuiomata, New Zealand
Death: 1 October 1869Wainuiomata, New Zealand
2 years
daughter
18711951
Birth: 11 November 1871 38 38 Wainuiomata, New Zealand
Death: 31 August 1951Upper Hutt, New Zealand
3 years
son
18741954
Birth: 16 April 1874 40 41 Wainuiomata, New Zealand
Death: 28 June 1954Whangarei, New Zealand
Family with Selena Mann
himself
18331906
Birth: 18 April 1833 40 37 Muthill, Perthshire, Ayrshire, Scotland
Death: 10 February 1906Wainuiomata, New Zealand
wife
18451934
Birth: 1845Cornwall, England
Death: 5 April 1934
MARRIAGE OF MCILVRIDE, PETER JOHN AND MANN, SELENA MARRIAGE OF MCILVRIDE, PETER JOHN AND MANN, SELENA3 January 1901Wellington, New Zealand
Birth
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From handwritten notes made by Phyllis Prouse Taylor on letters from her cousin (?) May.

MARRIAGE OF MCILVRIDE, JOHN AND MACGREGOR, ISABELLA
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Bethell, New Zealand recorded in handwritten notes made by Phyllis Prouse Taylor on letters from her cousin (?) May and the date as 19 January 1855. Other information seems more reliable than this, however.

MARRIAGE OF MCILVRIDE, PETER JOHN AND MANN, SELENA
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Date and location (Registrar's Office) from Jan Drummond.

Death
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From handwritten notes made by Phyllis Prouse Taylor on letters from her cousin (?) May.

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John and Isabella came to NZ on the ship Oliver Lang, both aged 24. The ship departed Gravesend, England on 5 June 1858 (other sources have shown this variously as 15 June and 18 June), with the couple in steerage, to Wellington. Arrived 18 Sep 1858 Wellington.

The Oliver Lang was a 2,200 tonne ship, and on this voyage it carried 60 cabin and 240 steerage passengers, with captain being Capt. Mundle.

During the trip, there was one death and one birth, during the quick passage of 85 days.

Left Gravesend on 5 June 1858.

Anchored in the Downs and passed Plymouth on 25 June 1858.

At latitude 20 south, longitude 24 west, a minor collision with the Hamburg barque Shon, from Santos, bound for Hamburg. The figurehead and part of the Shon's jib-boom were left on the Oliver Lang's deck, and a few stancheons and covering boards from the Oliver Lang were carried away.

Captain Mundle then boarded the Shon to make sure all was alright and that it was not taking on water.

The Oliver Lang did not sight any land after leaving the English Channel until D'Urville Island on 17 September 1858.

Thirty of the passengers were bound for Canterbury, eight for Nelson and the remainder for Wellington.

Wellington Independent, Volume X, Issue 1313, 22 September 1858, Page 2 had a listing of the passengers, with John and Isabella shown as "J. McKeride and wife".

There was one report that the ship was driven ashore by a gale while in Wellington, but was expected to be got off easily and without damage.

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Evening Post 12 Feb 1906

Death

On the 10 February, 1906, at his residence, 21 Russell-terrace, John M’Ilvride, late Postmaster, Wainui-o-mata, aged 72yrs. Crieff and Muthill (Scotland) papers please copy.

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Evening Post 12 Feb 1906
Personal Matters

On Saturday last the death occurred of Mr John M’Ilvride, a very old resident of the Wellington District. For many years he was postmaster at Wainuiomata, but for the last ten years he resided in Wellington. He had been in ill-health for the last four months and just before Christmas he had a paralytic seizure, followed some days later by a second stroke, which left him paralysed till his death. He is survived by his wife, four daughters and one son.

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Area 8 Block A Row 5 Plot 9

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Selected Plot Summary
Plot Karori 55 J PUBLIC
Size 6'0"
Deed No 55364
Purchaser MCILVRIDE
Deed Reg No 29 MC
Purchase 2 May 1900

Date 23 Dec 1899
FD/Custome WILSON J & A
Name MCILVRIDE, ISABELLA
Address RUSSELL TCE
Age 66

Date 13 Feb 1906
FD/Custome WILSON
Name MCILVRIDE, JOHN
Address 21 RUSSELL TCE
Age 72
Occupation Farmer
Enclosed by a concrete wall; Inscription

Entering from the main entrance, the graves are a sort way directly in, then up to the left, within an area of other similarly aged graves.

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IN MEMORIAM.

Evening Post, Volume LXXV, Issue 34, 10 February 1908, Page 1

M'ILVRIDE - In loving memory of my dear husband, John McIlvride, who departed this life on the 10th February 1906.

'Tis sinful I know to wish you were here,
But life is so lonely without one so dear;
A husband so loving, faithful and kind,
Hard in this world his equal to find.

Inserted by his loving wife Lena.

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from Evening Post, Volume LXXXII, Issue 143, 14 December 1911, Page 8

INTERPRETATION OF A WILL JOHN M'ILVRIDE, DECEASED.

An originating summons asking for the interpretation of the will of the late John Mcllvride, of Wellington, settler, came before Mr. Justice Chapman today. The parties were Alfred Ernest Cousins, of Wellington, engraver, and Thomas Devine, of Whiteman's Valley, farmer, trustees of the will of John Mcllvride, plaintiffs, and Selina Mcllvride, of Wellington, widow, Isabella Agnes Cousins, of Wellington, wife of A. E. Cousins, Grace McKenzie, wife of Alexander McKenzie, of Ajmera, India, Christina Prouse, wife of Richard Prouse, of Levin, sawmiller, Peter John Mcllvride, of Lower Hutt, electrical engineer, and Catherine Elizabeth Mcllvride, of Auckland, spinster, defendants. Plaintiff asked for answers to the following questions: - 1. Are plaintiffs bound in the first place to exhaust the capital sum of £420 4s 7d, being the proceeds of the sale and conversion of testator's real and personal estate other than the Russell-terrace house and the furniture, goods, chattels, etc., in making good the annuity of £26 by the will bequeathed to Selina Mcllvride in so far as the income of the capital sum is insufficient to meet the annuity before mortgaging the Russell-terrace house and furniture? 2. Or is it the duty of plaintiffs to in the first place mortgage the property, preserving intact the balance of such capital sum now in their hands and replacing out of the proceeds of the mortgage that part which has been expended by them in making good the balance of the annuity? 3. Are the trustees bound in any event to mortgage the property? His Honour said he would take time to consider his decision.

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from Evening Post, Volume LXXXIII, Issue 29, 3 February 1912, Page 3

A WILL INTERPRETED.

QUESTION OF MORTGAGE. Reserved judgment was given by Mr. Justice Chapman to-day in an originating summons asking for the interpretation of the will of the late John Mcllvride, of Wellington, settler.

The parties were: - Alfred Ernest Cousins, of Wellington, engraver, and Thomas Devine, of Whiteman's Valley, farmer, trustees of the will of John Mcllvride, plaintiffs, and Selina Mcllvride, of Wellington, widow, Isabella Agnes Cousins, of Wellington, wife of A. E. Cousins, Grace McKenzie, wife of Alexander McKenzie, of Ajmere, India, Christina Prouse, wife of Richard Prouse, of Levin, sawmiller, Peter John Mcllvride, of Lower Hutt, electrical engineer, and Catherine Elizabeth Mcllvride, of Auckland, spinster, defendants.

Mr. C. H. Treadwell appeared for the trustees and one set of beneficiaries, Mr. O. R. Beere for the residuary legatees, and Mr. A. W. Blair for the life tenant. Plaintiffs asked for answers to the following questions: —

  1. Are plaintiffs bound in the first place to exhaust the capital sum of £420 46, 7d, being the proceeds of the sale and conversion of testator's real and personal estate other than the Russell-terrace house, and the furniture, goods, chattels, etc., in making good the annuity of £26 by the will bequeathed to Selina Mcllvride in so far as the income of the capital sum is insufficient to meet the annuity before mortgaging the Russell-terrace house and furniture?

  2. Or is it the duty of plaintiffs to in the first place mortgage the property, preserving intact the balance of such capital sum now in their hands, and replacing out of the proceeds of the mortgage that part which hae been expended by them in making good the balance of the annuity?

  3. Are the trustees bound in any event to mortgage the property?

The answers to the questions were: -

  1. The trustees are not to exhaust the capital of the residuary estate before resorting to the house and furniture in Russell-terrace.

  2. It is their duty to mortgage that property to reinstate and relieve the capital of the residuary estate.

  3. The trustees are bound to mortgage the Russell-terrace property to reinstate the residuary estate, and also for the further purpose of keeping up the annuity, unless tho widow releases them.

"A more difficult question," added his Honour, "is whether, supposing that proves insufficient, the 'annuity or yearly sum' is to be treated as an annuity left by testator to his widow, payable in any event, and therefore a charge upon his whole estate, or whether it in not in effect a gift of income plus the aid given to it by the power to resort to the house and furniture. This question is not asked by the originating summons, and the case was not argued as if it had been asked. I have, therefore, come to no conclusion upon it. Should the parties wish the Court to answer it, I think the summons should first be amended by adding it to the questions already there."

The further question was adjourned to enable counsel to consider the judgment.

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Though his name is almost always given as John McIlvride, his son referred to himself as Peter John McIlvride, Jr., so the full name is being used for this person.

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Possible location of John McIlvride in Russell Terrace

BUS: Archives Archives@wcc.govt.nz

Hi Nick,

Thanks again for you request for information regarding John Mcllvride and where he may have lived.

The Te Aro Rate Book of 1900-01 records a John Mcllvride owing a property in Town Acre 1030 on Russell Terrace.
That year it appears the rate collectors were on that (even) side of Russell Terrace working south and his name is the first recorded under Town Acre 1030.
Following that logic, I think John was living at what is now 68 Russell Terrace as it is the first property in that Town Acre.

Town Acres 1030 and 1032 were subdivided in 1885 and Angus Avenue was created. I have attached an image of the plan of the subdivision.
The property that become 68 is considered Lot 6. It was built between 1886 and 1892 as it appears on the Thomas Ward map of that year.

I have also viewed the letter written by John to the Council.
It is dated March 1900 and he is complaining about the water being off in his part of the street for 13 days!

I hope this helps answer some of your questions around this man.

If you are ever in Wellington, you are welcome to come into our Archives and view the Council Rate Books.
All you have to do is contact in advance of your arrival and we will get material ready for you.
If you have any further questions do not hesitate to ask us.

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From Journal of the New Zealand Federation Historical Societies, Vol. 2, No. 3, September 1985:

Hugh Sinclair was by no means well-off when he arrived in New Zealand in 1839 in the employ of James Coutts Crawford, latterly of Miramar fame. It was to be some eight or nine years before he could afford to buy land in Wainuiomata and build a house. Two houses in fact; the first was swept away in a flood, so the second was established on higher ground and was called 'Moness'. Here Hugh and his wife Agnes raised their four children, two boys and two girls. As he became established Hugh extended his land holdings to some 2500 acres, and set up a timber mill where he employed some 50 workers. Ten years after settling in Wainuiomata Hugh was able to invite his niece Isabel and her husband John Mcllvride out to join him in this new land, and to assist them in establishing a home he gifted Isabel 25 acres of his property. Here John Mcllvride built a typical one and a half storied house of the period and it was here that Wainuiomata's first Post Office began in January 1870, with John and Isabel's daughter Christina later riding over the narrow winding track which constituted the Wainuiomata Hill Road two or three times a week to collect the mail from Lower Hutt. Christina made this ride from the age of 12 in 1872 until her marriage seven years later

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John and Isabella moved into Wellington, to 21 Russell Terrace, Newtown, Wellington, probably in the years between 1896 and 1899, based on references to them selling up in Wainuiomata.

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